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  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    If anybody wants to contest the tag, feel free to respond to the challenge I've posted multiple times in the thread. I don't want to lock this and then be accused of trying to suppress discussion but it would be great to move on with our lives.

  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    Congrats to the first member of the Liar club.

  • Re: Let's Talk about Factom's Repeated Lies and "mistakes" - per cryptonaught's request

    @paulsnow @adam, @brighton36 @Junseth

    Please put together a concise list of questions you'd like Chris to answer or accusations you'd like him to provide supporting evidence for.

    Thanks for this opportunity. I'd be happy to provide a list of questions, and I'd be happy to keep it to a small and easy to manage number. I would like a couple of days to do this, since today is going to be very busy, and I'd like to give a reasonable amount of time and effort to do this right.

    That's fine, we waited three months for Chris to post his "evidence" that started this converation back up so we'll hold this until you prepare your questions.

  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    Holy smokes Joshua, it looks like you're out of accusations and are just down to calling me names.

    To be clear, you're not going to be contacting any podcasters, contributors or other people who could support your "opinions" in order to meet my challenge?

    @adam At this point I think we can say that the bolded part is provably a lie. Do you disagree and have any evidence or hearsay to support it?

    @junseth We probably won't. We got kicked off the LTB network because Adam didn't like that we didn't like him censoring us. So his response was to throw a fit and censor us. Our thoughts: Whoooo cares? Haha.

    If you want to see our content on the LTB Network, I suggest you Email Adam. Let him know. But I don't think there is any world where that stubborn, bad-thinking butter will change his mind about anything.

    @pooktwo

    1. Me and chris fought for a couple days on slack, but on October 23rd which is a friday, i said this to chris on slack: "I think we should really talk about this over the phone, and actually I think it would be a good idea to bring me on your show this week. Or you come on my show would be better lol, you guys would eat me up :D"

    2. Chris did not respond to me at all, and he ALWAYS responds to me. So i assumed he either wanted to let it die, or he wanted you guys to be able to talk about what had happened without me first.

    3. So the ladder above ended up being correct. I dont mind as much you guys hating on me on the BU that upcoming sunday, what was really disappointing is that Chris indeed allowed you to make accusations that LTB manipulated the whole thing even though @brighton36 damn well knew that wasnt the case.

    4. I made the descision right then and there that it is best for our two shows to go there seperate ways. I still mean what i said when i think you guys are valuable. You are skeptics and that is important, you are smart, chris is a board member, and you bring comedy to the space. If people want to be public figures in this space, they have to be ok with getting criticized by people like you and chris and i do think its important. Its hard to verify if everything you guys talk about is truth, because you guys talk in a way that actually is opinion only, which is really clever that you guys do it that way because it gives you something to fall back on. But you flat out lied about LTB manipulating me. You hate scammers and you actually scammed me.

    Does that mean you're withdrawing the accusations (like this one) and admitting you were wrong or are you not even going to pretend to try and just slink away acting like i'm the bully? If you're not acknowledging that you were wrong (as Robert has laid out in detail above at your request) or going to provide proof to support your claims then we can skip the rest of the wait and add you to the Liar group now.

  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    @junseth

    Is the above post you completely dismissing Roberts timeline without comment?

    Nope, it's me writing a post before I'd seen it. :)

    As far as the timeline is concerned, I don't know that that changes anything I said. He denies you had anything to do with the decision. That's his prerogative. I don't believe him.

    What else are you trying to insinuate Adam? I haven't brought up the chat here. I don't know that it's entirely relevant save for as a footnote in the story. The only goal in this thread was to let people know that we aren't on LTB anymore and where they can find us. You have decided to take it to a different level, and then are planning on leveraging your authority over the network to give me a label. I'm ok with that. I can give you other labels to give me if you'd like: child, fart-joker, scammer, butt-licker. You can feel free to append whatever label you'd like to my name :). I'll talk about it on my podcast where everyone can listen to it and decide for themselves.

    @adam At this point I think we can say that the bolded part is provably a lie. Do you disagree and have any evidence or hearsay to support it?

    @junseth We probably won't. We got kicked off the LTB network because Adam didn't like that we didn't like him censoring us. So his response was to throw a fit and censor us. Our thoughts: Whoooo cares? Haha.

    If you want to see our content on the LTB Network, I suggest you Email Adam. Let him know. But I don't think there is any world where that stubborn, bad-thinking butter will change his mind about anything.

    So you just get to say whatever you want about anyone, you don't have any proof and the person you said knows has told you flat out you're wrong with a detailed timeline, but you're still not wrong because.... ?

    Once again, you've really got nothing else? I'm the big villain in your story and that's your whole arsenal?

  • Re: Let's Talk about Factom's Repeated Lies and "mistakes" - per cryptonaught's request

    @PaulSnow - Please put together a concise list of questions you'd like Chris to answer or accusations you'd like him to provide supporting evidence for.

    @brighton36 will have 24 hours after you post to respond substantively either proving himself right or admitting that he is not able to support his claim. He should post his evidence to this thread so everyone on the LTB platform who cares can decide for themselves if his accusations are credible.

    If he declines to do this, he'll join Joshua in the newly created "Liar" usergroup. (I'm assuming Joshua isn't going to suddenly prove his case but I'll be happy to be proven wrong)

    This usergroup doesn't affect posting, the rewards program or permissions at all vs a normal account but it'll have the title "Liar" so that people interacting with them on the forum can see that this is a person who makes big loud accusations, demanding action on the part of others without being willing to support the case to the satisfaction of anyone not already in on the lynching.

    And then hopefully we can end this waste of time. @brighton36, Either prove Factom is a scam or let Paul get back to work and stop using the LTB platform for your witchhunts just because you don't have a community of your own to try and rile up. We're nice and try to provide a neutral, open platform to everyone but this it's stupid to let you abuse productive people this just because we don't want you screaming censorship. You won't be censored, you'll just be labeled what you're inability to support your accusations continues to prove you to be, a liar who just wants people on the internet to like him.

  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    Is the above post you completely dismissing Roberts timeline without comment?

    I'm glad you're accepting of the Liar rank, in 21 hours you'll have earned it. If you don't intend to actually prove any of your accusations (I think i'm not the only one who percieves your posts as accusatory towards lots of people but me specifically), there's really no need to keep posting here.

    As you say, the thread is here for everyone to see and i'm happy with leaving this to the perceptions of future readers if you are.

  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    At this point I think we can say that the bolded part is provably a lie. Do you disagree and have any evidence or hearsay to support it?

    @junseth We probably won't. We got kicked off the LTB network because Adam didn't like that we didn't like him censoring us. So his response was to throw a fit and censor us. Our thoughts: Whoooo cares? Haha.

    If you want to see our content on the LTB Network, I suggest you Email Adam. Let him know. But I don't think there is any world where that stubborn, bad-thinking butter will change his mind about anything.

  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    @adam Thanks for correcting my misperceptions, sorry for distracting you from the challenge you face. You've got about 22 hours left.

    @adam

    @adam Just to make sure you didn't miss it, I've challenged you to show you're not just flat out lying. You've got a lot of words, if you haven't made it up you'll be able to find a single instance in my very public last two and a half years where what you say is happening all the time, has actually happened. This will be difficult of course because you're just lying and so can't back it up, but hey maybe i'm wrong and you've got some evidence to support your accusations

    @junseth

    a - You cannot find a single podcaster who we have worked with now or in the past who we've ever asked to make content changes unless it was a) about bad language because of the iTunes "All Ages" rating or b) that was a podcast not actually about cryptocurrency and thus not suitable for publishing. You've represented multiple times that specifically I am doing this but lets broaden it out and just say all of the LTBN. Can you find a single instance where your thesis matches reality?

    b - You cannot show a single instance of me censoring you, or anybody else for that matter. I'd suggest you start with the source @pooktwo who, although I have not discussed this challenge with him, I'm sure will answer any questions you have on the topic. You're welcome to look anywhere else you'd like. Can you find a single instance where your thesis matches reality?

    Since we both know you'll never admit your wrong, i'll just set the deadline for 24 hours from now. You can admit you're wrong, or present evidence that supports your arguements. You can post your evidence here in the forum and let anyone who is interested see and judge for themselves. If you prove me wrong, I'll appologize to you. If this challenge proves you wrong, we'll both just know you were unable to back up your accusations and that people will pay even less attention to you than they do now.

    Good luck, let me know if you need anybody's emails.

    You said that you can't do "b" because you can't prove a negative.

    That might be true, but if I am what you say I am, it should be easy to find someone who has had an experience with me that supports your view. Or is it really really difficult for some reason, maybe because what you're saying is baloney?

    Tick tock. What have you got besides the rewards program and that LTBN doesn't allow open public posting to the front page?

  • Re: Missing the Junseth and Chris DeRose Chit Chat recap on the XCP Community Update show?

    @junseth

    You've got about 22 hours left.

    Very cute.

    Tomorrow I'm creating a new usergroup called "Liar" for people who make repeated accusations they can't support with reality. If you don't belong in that category, this is your opportunity to prove it.

    You'll still be able to post like any other user, we don't want to censor anybody except spammers (even though what you're doing is a form of spam) But you'll have earned the public rank so people can go into your posts knowing you have a history of exaggerating, massaging facts and flat out lying to get attention.

    You've got my attention, can you prove any of your claims?

    Tick tock.

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