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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4343dv0jOUI

The anarch wages his own wars, even when marching in rank and file.
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  • Tintin

    I think in a few hundred years there will no longer be religion. Which I believe plays a major factor. Furthermore I think the world has become politically more stable, but there will always be undercover ops and lone wolf terrorists. So we will never reach 'full' peace I guess, in a sense that there will be no fights. But I think big scale fights between countries will be a thing of the past.

    Edit: the creator of the video assumes that history will repeat itself, maybe that is true but I don't think it happens on a the same scale. Btw, getting a little speculative here: Maybe once we fuse with mechanical beings in a thousand years or so, I think the comparison with history ends. What characterises us as humans is then gone, and along with it our 'properties'.

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    True peace in my opinion will not be achieved anytime soon. Yes I believe that the world is heading in a positive direction, even though the news might make you think otherwise, but you must take many things into factor that are unsolved problems in the world:

    • The Haves and the Have Nots - In every society there is a drastic difference in these classes of people. The haves must give to the Have nots for them to survive in some way shape or form. With that being said, someone with nothing will be willing to do anything. This is a major cause of war and crime. Politicians can disagree with another civilization and pay the have nots to further their agendas by joining the military and creating a forceful army or business in the city will be robbed by the have nots who they cannot hire.

    • Religion - Although religion at its core can be a great thing and many practice peacefully, many leaders will use it as a way to brainwash people into furthering the agenda of the religious mission (which throughout time is usually hidden behind a political agenda). This has been one of the biggest causes of war since the dawn of man. So even if you practice religion in a peaceful way, you still will support the bad parts of it by believing in it, even though one might not be radical about it. For example: Phil from "duck dynasty" (which for the record i have never watched) in an interview on fox was saying that he wishes to convert ISIS or kill them. What he doesnt realize is that ISIS wishes to convert him or kill him. Its such a ridiculous thing that many are blinded to acknowledged that all religions are virtually the same: Worship your god, be good, convert those that don't believe, and kill those that refuse to convert. Many will not kill, but its still written in the Bible, Torah, and Quran, making it dangerous.

    • Money - Though BTC can solve many problems, greed is not one of them. There is always going to be people trying to get more. And if you have all the money in the world then you simply seek power, because having all the money allows you to do anything and people will get board of the luxory life eventually and will look to further whatever their new desires are (can be bad or good).

    • Living essentials - Until you can 3d print food, homes, cars, medicine, ext.. for free, there is always going to be those that do not have these things. To get these things in many cases, you have to play ball with the local government or society's to get a chance at receiving these things. And many cases around the world is not a good situation.

    • Media - The Media outlets will do everything they can to turn the 2 party system against each other. People think of this D vs R, black vs white, or rich vs poor but this is simply not true. Its the division of the people that they aim to achieve to keep them hating eachother rather than the people in power. When someone like Ralph Nayder, Raul Paul, or Ross Perot try and make a difference they are simply ridiculed and ignored by the masses because MSN or FOX did not endorse them

    Something like The Venus project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Venus_Project is a great idea for world peace, but it is still just a dream, not a reality.

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    @tintin @pooktwo

    Guys, I can give you a very rough outline for the thinking behind the video. The ideas come from Oswald Spengler. What Spengler does is take Goethe's ideas of morphology: structured life cycles of biological forms i.e. the life-cycle of plants, and mixes it with Nietzsche's analysis of moral decay. In other words Spengler does not believe in linear progress within the context of history.

    So, Spengler studied the life-cycles of 9 civilizations and found marked commonalities between the growth periods and decline periods for each civilization that each mapped on to each other.

    Culture is founded on deeply religious thinking, this gives absolute meaning and shows itself throughout the culture, mathematics, architecture, philosophy, music, arts etc it is deeply rooted in the heart of the culture.

    There is a period in each culture when all possibilities are exhausted i.e. "God is Dead", that was Nietzsche's famous pronouncement. What that means is absolute meaning has started to break down as the philosophers start to rationalise and question everything i.e. Socrates and in the West's case this was the Enlightenment era and the time of the French revolution.

    The end of absolute meaning is the phase at the end of high culture and the start of decline of civilization. As civilization becomes senile, in its later stages (where we are now), the strong virtuous values that built the culture become weaker i.e. Democracy, Human rights, feminism etc Now that might sound offensive to you, but you have to look behind these things. Each of those things promote equality rather than champion the strong.

    So, to this video. The video is asking if there is any value in holding the Ideal of peace when put in to historical context. The answer is there is no evidence of Utopia in human history.

    The anarch wages his own wars, even when marching in rank and file.
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    @tintin @pooktwo

    Guys, I can give you a very rough outline for the thinking behind the video. The ideas come from Oswald Spengler. What Spengler does is take Goethe's ideas of morphology: structured life cycles of biological forms i.e. the life-cycle of plants, and mixes it with Nietzsche's analysis of moral decay. In other words Spengler does not believe in linear progress within the context of history.

    So, Spengler studied the life-cycles of 9 civilizations and found marked commonalities between the growth periods and decline periods for each civilization that each mapped on to each other.

    Culture is founded on deeply religious thinking, this gives absolute meaning and shows itself throughout the culture, mathematics, architecture, philosophy, music, arts etc it is deeply rooted in the heart of the culture.

    There is a period in each culture when all possibilities are exhausted i.e. "God is Dead", that was Nietzsche's famous pronouncement. What that means is absolute meaning has started to break down as the philosophers start to rationalise and question everything i.e. Socrates and in the West's case this was the Enlightenment era and the time of the French revolution.

    The end of absolute meaning is the phase at the end of high culture and the start of decline of civilization. As civilization becomes senile, in its later stages (where we are now), the strong virtuous values that built the culture become weaker i.e. Democracy, Human rights, feminism etc Now that might sound offensive to you, but you have to look behind these things. Each of those things promote equality rather than champion the strong.

    So, to this video. The video is asking if there is any value in holding the Ideal of peace when put in to historical context. The answer is there is no evidence of Utopia in human history.

    That makes sense with you putting it that way, but the video I was not a huge fan of, it is not that descriptive of the message. Hidden messages are kind of cool, but I would prefer an explanation like you have given

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    @pooktwo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsaieZt5vjk

    Actually, I should have just given you this link.

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    @pooktwo

    That makes sense with you putting it that way, but the video I was not a huge fan of, it is not that descriptive of the message. Hidden messages are kind of cool, but I would prefer an explanation like you have given

    The thing about the message is it's metaphysical. It is metaphysics that makes God, science, maths, art, in fact, everything that gives most people's lives meaning, possible. So, People like Nietzsche and Spengler are great metaphysicians and are able to overcome metaphysics and see behind the curtain, so to speak.

    The anarch wages his own wars, even when marching in rank and file.
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    I just wanted to say that this video is not promoting violence. It is simply putting the Ideal of peace within an historical context. An Ideal needs relevance and context for meaning and that can only come from history itself.

    So, I would say this video promotes excellence in that its message is to oppose mediocre values for high values. This is the only life we have and I don't believe settling for mediocrity is good enough.

    I probably just managed to offend everyone that reads this post, but there you go!

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